Interview with Fr. Andrew Phillips, the priest of St John’s Orthodox church in Colchester, Essex, UK (ROCOR)
What is your view of what is called the ‘Pan-Orthodox Council’?
I have been following the stages in the development of this farce for
40 years and there is a spiritual principle about humility which has
been ignored from the very beginning. This is: ‘Start big and you will
finish small; start small and you may finish big’. So to call a mere
meeting a ‘Great and Holy Pan-Orthodox Council’ when it is in fact not a
‘Great Council’ but a fairly small conference, which is not
‘Pan-Orthodox’ and which seems to be linked to politics and not to
holiness, is absurd and pretentious. It reeks of pride and hubris. And
this refusal to obey this most basic of all spiritual principles
explains why it has all become such a disaster.
However, there is worse than this, there is the terminology itself.
The word ‘Pan-Orthodox’ is a modern Greek neologism. The Universal and
other Councils were never called ‘Pan-Orthodox’, they were called
‘Church Councils’, Councils of the whole Church. The term ‘Pan-Orthodox’
comes from branch-theory ecumenism, the concept that our Councils are
on an equal footing to Roman Catholic or any other heterodox ‘Councils’.
In reality, there is only one sort of Council: Church Councils. Apart
from them there are only meetings. In other words, there are Councils
that are inspired by the Holy Spirit and meetings that are not. Meetings
that are not Councils include Vatican I and Vatican II, which
promulgated heresies, and also Robber Councils, where people who looked
like Orthodox bishops and said that they were Orthodox bishops met and
then promulgated heresies. The term ‘Pan-Orthodox’ can only be used for
meetings and conferences. It is not a Church or Patristic term; it has
no spiritual meaning or place in the Tradition.
Then there is the question of the agenda. This agenda was imposed
from above and most of the bishops, let alone the clergy and the people,
were never consulted about it. In any case, the very concept of an
agenda as such is alien to Councils and belongs to the world of secular
and corporate meetings. Church Councils discuss issues that all the
faithful are talking about, for which there is a pressing and obvious
need for discussion; the concept that you have to establish an agenda
because you are not sure what you are supposed to talk about is absurd.
Councils are welcome; meeting are not and a whole vast section of the
Orthodox world never wanted this meeting in Crete.
For example, there are three great issues in Orthodox life that are
not even on the agenda of this meeting: firstly, the divisive
introduction of the Roman Catholic calendar for the fixed feasts among
some Local Churches, which at once caused schisms in them; secondly, the
phyletistic, jurisdictional divisions in the Diaspora, with the failure
to establish new Local Churches for Orthodox who live and were born
outside the canonical territories of the old Local Churches; thirdly,
the question of missionary work to the Non-Orthodox world. And,
incredibly, these are the very three issues, probably the only important
ones, that are not being discussed!
In other words, the very concept of this whole ‘Pan-Orthodox’ farce
has been a purely political manipulation from the very start.
How is it reflected in the Orthodox Christian community in the UK?
Is there an Orthodox Christian community in the UK? I have never seen
it. We only have ‘jurisdictions’ - of the Constantinople Church, the
Russian Church, the Antiochian Church, the Romanian Church, the Serbian
Church etc. Everyone lives their lives separately. I wish there was an
Orthodox Christian community here and in every country in the Diaspora.
There is not; the concept is either a myth or else a dream.
As regards being ‘reflected’, just as in Russia and everywhere else,
the vast majority of Orthodox here have never even heard of any
‘Pan-Orthodox Council’. It is not reflected at all. Again we come back
to the fundamental problem that the faithful have never been consulted
or informed. Until February we had little idea of what specifically was
being discussed behind closed doors. When we saw the draft documents, at
last published and only at the insistence of the Russian Church, we
were in shock.
Besides religion there is a purely geopolitical issue - the
status of autocephalous Churches, especially for the Ukraine. So the
agenda proposed by Patriarch Bartholomew was difficult for the Russian
Orthodox Church. What is the role of politics in this matter in your
opinion?
I think this whole affair is a purely political operation, imposed by
the US State Department on its minions. This has been made clear by the
call on 16 June of the Ukrainian Parliament, the Rada, for
Constantinople to grant ‘independence’ to the Ukrainian Church (which
one?), despite the uncanonicity of any such move. This has obviously
been thought up in the backrooms of Washington.
How do you assess the positions of the Bulgarian, Georgian,
Antiochian and, at first, of the Serbian Church, which refused to
participate?
Each had its own reasons for not participating, apart from
disagreement with the ecumenist agenda. Antioch because of its anger at
Jerusalem’s invasion of its canonical territory and the fact that
Constantinople foolishly told it to ignore such a question of principle
until after the Council, even though the problem has been dragging on
for years; the Georgians and the Bulgarians are not participating for
being insulted by the US-controlled Patriarchate of Constantinople,
which declared last April that the Georgians were fundamentalists and
the Bulgarians were thieves, actually creating a diplomatic incident in
Bulgaria. As for the Serbs, I think their problem is that of essentially
everyone else - that Constantinople simply ignores any criticism,
blindly trying to impose its will regardless of others, as if it were an
Eastern Papacy. Of course, the Serbian Church, racked by a US-caused
schism in Kosovo and under immense pressure from Washington/the EU/NATO
and the masonic government in Belgrade, then decided to attend the
meeting in Crete conditionally, but that is another story.
In general can you describe the situation in the UK? Is it
normal to be an Orthodox Christian there? How does the State influence
the Church and personal choice?
The situation in the UK is no different from anywhere else in the
Western world. It is not normal to be a Christian in today’s UK, let
alone to belong to the tiny minority here that is composed of Orthodox
Christians. The State ignores Christians and Christianity. We are
totally irrelevant to it and its anti-Christian agenda. As far as they
are concerned, we are an anachronism and we should die out and disappear
as soon as possible. Having said that, there is no active persecution
as such, just indifference and underlying hostility, disguised by the
hypocritical politeness typical of the British Establishment.
What is happening to other traditional beliefs there? It
seems as if there is serious decline. For example, in Nigeria there are
many more followers of Anglicanism than in the UK.
Western forms of Christianity, that is Roman Catholicism and
Protestantism (and Anglicanism is only a form of Protestantism with some
Roman Catholic decorations), are in terminal decline everywhere in the
Western world, though they still survive in countries in Africa, Asia
and in Eastern Europe, for example in Poland. In the UK today, there are
only really two forms of Christianity that are alive, both immigrant,
Eastern European and Black African. The rest is fundamentally on its
death-bed: it is far worse than ‘serious decline’. For example, a
million immigrant Poles have saved Roman Catholicism here. Quite simply,
Western people have lost their faith. Since Western civilization was
founded on faith, this means that Western civilization is also on its
death-bed. Western civilization is today just a series of historical
monuments for tourists to visit: the soul has gone out of it.
What exactly is the image of Russia and the Russian Orthodox Church in the UK?
Let us deal with the question of Russia first:
British Imperialism, which began to evolve among the bloodthirsty, 16th
century Tudor tyrants, has always seen Russia as a rival. Therefore the
British Establishment has always done its best to spread slander and
hatred towards Russia from outside and to destroy it from inside, for
instance, helping to organize the assassination of the Righteous Emperor
Paul I in 1801 through the British ambassador. This was even more
obvious in the 19th century, when Britain actually invaded
Russia during the Crimean War. At that time British Imperialists
invented a policy which they called ‘the Great Game’. This meant
surrounding Russia’s borders with British Protectorates, Persia,
Afghanistan, Tibet and China. (Was Russia invading Norway, Ireland and
France at the same time? Of course, not. This aggression was completely
one-sided). Britain (and the US) also financed and armed Japan to the
teeth, using it as a proxy to attack Russia without provocation in 1904.
Here was no ‘Game’, just a bloodthirsty policy of anti-Russian
aggression. And, incidentally, this is exactly what the USA is doing
today.
This aggression also happened in the 20th century when
Britain betrayed Russia and Tsar Nicholas II in 1917, by helping to
organize and enthusiastically welcoming the Masonic February coup d’etat
that was called a ‘Revolution’. Then came another British invasion
during the Russian Civil War, then the British betrayal of
Czechoslovakia to Hitler and the encouragement of Hitler to invade
Russia. And that was followed by the Cold War, as announced by the
half-American Churchill. The British elite only likes Russian traitors,
for example, in history, Kurbsky, Milyukov, Rodzianko, Lenin, Trotsky,
Gorbachov, Yeltsin, Litvinenko, Pussy Riot, and it only finances
academics who hate Russia. It sidelines people who tell the truth about
Russia.
With the new Cold War, launched by the Americans in 2008 with the
US-backed Georgian invasion of Russia and followed up by the US coup
d’etat in Kiev in 2014, the British elite has once more shown that it is
merely Washington’s poodle. The British State-controlled media, like
the BBC and the Press, (which are heavily infiltrated by MI5 and MI6
agents) have spread hatred for Russia everywhere today, as we can see in
the jealousy caused by the immensely successful Russian staging of the
Sochi Olympics, the present anti-Russian doping scandal or recently the
accusations of Russian football hooliganism (started by English
hooligans in reality).
However, as usual, we have to consider that the Establishment elite
is one thing, the people another. There is a minority of people in the
UK who can see through the anti-Russian lies and propaganda, just as a
minority of Germans could see through the lies and propaganda of Hitler
and Goebbels. So all is not lost. Some people actually bother to inform
themselves and see the Establishment elite for what it is. Not everybody
puts US-manipulated, isolationist UK xenophobia above the Truth.
Now as regards the Russian Orthodox Church:
Given the incredibly poor educational system and the general state of
ignorance in the UK (is it deliberate policy to keep people in
ignorance?), most people here have never heard of the Russian Orthodox
Church, but then many have never heard of Christianity (though all have
heard of Islam). Among the thin, educated layer in society, there are
various attitudes.
For example, the atheists hate us and see as obscurantists, just like
the Bolsheviks did. Then there is the Establishment elite that wants to
destroy us because we refuse to put the British State before Christ;
these are the people who openly and publicly, in organs like ‘The Times’
and ‘The Daily Telegraph’, encouraged the 2006 Sourozh schism, caused
by pro-Establishment and pro-EU modernist Anglicans who had been allowed
to infiltrate and take over the Sourozh Diocese of the Patriarchate of
Moscow during the previous generation, forcing out and persecuting the
real Russian Orthodox. (That persecution that had been ongoing for
decades was the real scandal).
For the Establishment only one Orthodox Church exists, that is the
Patriarchate of Constantinople, which of course is Western-controlled.
For instance, for large parts of the 19th century it was
controlled by either the British or French ambassador in Istanbul. In
the 1920s the Anglican Church gave the ultra-modernist British freemason
Patriarch Meletios Metaksakis £100,000 – a huge sum in those days, say
£10,000,000 today, which was essentially a bribe to pass pro-Anglican
measures like introducing the heterodox calendar and recognizing the
Anglican ‘priesthood’. Since the collapse of the British Empire after
the Second World War, the Patriarchate of Constantinople has been taken
over by the US, of which it is just a mouthpiece.
Finally, there some Christians in the UK who love the Russian
Orthodox Church; but there are very, very few of us. It is a great pity
that we, the best friends that Russia will ever have in the UK, are not
appreciated or supported by Russia. That will always be very painful for
us.